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Your Morning Dump… Where Danny Ainge has started contract talks with Zeller, Sullinger

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

Celtics president of basketball operations Danny Ainge said he has had preliminary contract talks with the agents for forwards Tyler Zeller and Jared Sullinger. Both players are eligible to be offered extensions prior to the Oct. 31 deadline, though it remains unclear whether the Celtics will choose that route for either.

“Obviously, those are two guys that we like moving forward,” Ainge said. “So, yeah, there will be more discussions with both of them, probably during the month of October.”

Forward Perry Jones, who was acquired in a trade with the Thunder in July, is also eligible for an extension. But he is not a lock to make the final roster this fall.

Zeller, 25, appears the most likely of the three to be in line for an extension.

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In this case, “preliminary contract talks” might involve Danny Ainge asking each agent for a number and responding with a deep laugh or “I’ll get back to you.”

We’ve touched on Tyler Zeller’s extension here and here over the last few weeks, but there’s been little discussion about Jared Sullinger. As I’ve stated previously, this is a make or break year for Sullinger in Boston. Sully needs to be fit, punctual and productive in order to secure a long term future with the Celtics. I’m highly doubtful the Celtics management will be willing to make such a commitment based on what is shown by October 31.

It’s believed Zeller will command a deal with an annual value of $10-12 million. I think Sully is in that ballpark, although teams might be less willing to give Jared 4 years.

On Page 2, Isaiah Thomas isn’t happy with Sports Illustrated’s Top 100 rankings.

Thomas is ranked 88th in the rankings of current players. That might seem low, but you have to remember there are 150 starters in this league. A top 100 ranking means you are considered one of the top 3 players per team.

The paragraph written about IT’s skill set is quite complimentary and I’m not sure why Isaiah would be pissed. Maybe he took a look at the players snubbed (Tony Allen?) and that set him off.

And finally, Dwight Howard unsurprisingly lacks knowledge of NBA history.

Hey Dwight, one of the guys you listed in the discussion for GOAT is a lefty so you might want to pull back on the praise for James Harden.

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  • bill_nair

    I wouldn’t be surprised to see Zeller extended before he hits RFA, he seems like the type to take a little less $$$ for the security.

    Sully wants his payday (hence the new found motivation to drop weight) so I dont see anything happening there. Hopefully he plays well and gets traded at the deadline.

    • stephen

      i wonder if the kings would take bradley, sully, maybe ko and rozie or however you speell his name for ben mclemore and wcs. throw in some fillers and a pick for the kings just not the 2016 nets pick. we have lee, clears up some guard room. improve at the 2 spot and get a good defensive minded C

  • Curt Hays

    I know why IT4 was pissed. Rondo didn’t even make the list. Rondo should be MVP every year. It’s a conspiracy.

    Seriously though, Manu Ginobli isn’t in the top 100? gfy

  • Banner18

    Zeller is a center. The article says ‘forwards’. As for Sully, beware of the Mark Blount factor. One good contract push that lands him 4/50 and Sullinger may never get in shape again.

    • wil

      Would only sign sully long term for 8-9mil a year. If he is gonna get 12, should only sign him for like 2 years. Almost like we did with amir johnson

      • Banner18

        True. And you only sign him for the 8-9 if he’s in good shape and stays in good shape all season. If so, he could be an 18/9 guy for this team and a long-term starting PF. However, if he puts up those type of numbers he will probably sign like a 3 year/36 million deal with an opt-out after year 2 with another team over taking a 5/45 deal with us. 5/45 is what I hope we get Zeller locked up at before the offseason starts.

  • RedsLoveChild

    Sully`s timing couldn`t be worse.

    Ainge only has to look at Fenway….and wonder if the Sox regret committing $95M to the “King Of Cholesterol”, Pablo Sandoval.

    • bill_nair

      If we resign Sully I hope its for no more than 2 years. I dont think my opinion of a player has changed as fast as it has for Sully.

      • wil

        From Celtics point of view, this can be a good chance to sign Sully for cheap. Though for Sully, it makes more sense to sign next offseason to see if his improved conditioning can up his play and his pay.

        What i dont wanna see is another deal like AB’s. Where Ainge settled, and gave an amount because of potential. We must sign Sully for what he is right now.

  • swissflix

    It is going to be such an important year for so many of these players-very exciting to watch how this young roster will slowly take shape! Olynyk, Sully, Bradley, Smart, Rozier, Hunter, Young, Zeller- who progresses? Who does not get better? Basically every player on this roster has some questions to answers.

    • bill_nair

      The bad thing is only 2 of those players you listed is going to get the necessary minutes to progress, Smart & AB. I expect KO to lose some playing time and to take another blow to his confidence.

      • swissflix

        I hope it is not AB in the backcourt as i think he has reached his ceiling.

        • wil

          Yeah, the only way AB is gonna breakthrough is he improves his dribbles ALOT. So he can use his athleticism and finish better at the rim or atleast get to the foul line. But i dont think its gonna happen.

          Young is also in a make or break year imo. He is looking like Fab. Dominates dleague but very unreliable in the nba.

          Olynyk is already showing his pros and cons. This year we will know if his pros can outweigh his cons.

          Sully is probably our best bet. He is the probably our most complete young player. His conditioning will help his defense and his shooting. I just hope he can lay off the food during the season lol

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  • stephen

    i know a lot of you would probably disagree with me but i would try and trade for ben mclemore. the guy has a lot of potential and has and is getting better and more then likely will continue to get better. in my eyes he can be a more athletic version of Wesley Mathews

  • adam

    what’s a GOAT?

    • Banner18

      Greatest Of All Time

      • adam

        Man Dwight really is a clown….

  • Banner18

    I feel that one reason Boston went and got Johnson was b/c he is close with DeMarr DeRozen, who is a free agent next year. If Zeller signs a team friendly deal (like 5/45) similar to what Crowder did, Boston trades Bradley and Sully at the deadline (not sure for what yet, just no salary beyond next year) and declines Johnson’s 12m salary for next season only to re-up him at like 3/18 (what Brandon Wright got from Memphis) then the C’s would enter free agency 2016 with roughly 45 million in salaries when you take into account three 1st rd picks needing to be paid. That would be for Smart, IT, Rozier, Hunter, Young, Crowder, Mickey, Johnson, Olynyk and Zeller. The Cap should be between 85-90 million next year so DA easily has enough to make max offers for DeRozen and Horford. Not saying the C’s would be those two players destinations of choice, but at least the opportunity would be there as DeRozen would see himself as the clear #1 guy, 25ppg all-star playing with his pal Amir in a big market and Horford would see a deep team ready to contend in the weaker east if he came, a smart coach and a lot of like-minded lunchpail type players who fit his style of play.

    • Banner18

      This trade deadline offer to Atlanta might work: Bradley, Sully, Young, Evan Turner, the Hawks choice of any Celtics draft pick in 2016 (likely the Nets) only top 3 protected (2nd best pick if it lands top 3 or choice of future Nets pick top 3 unprotected) and the better of the Celtics or Grizzlies #1 pick in 2018 for Horford and Seflolosha (owed 4m in 2016-17 compared to having the Bird Right’s to the much younger/slightly better Turner or just have him come off the books). That would give the Celtics the right to offer Horford 5 years and the most money. If they couldn’t convince DeRozen to come here then instead of signing his pal Amir to 3/18 entering his age 30 season they could go after Horford pal Joakim Noah for like 4/52, the Tyson Chandler contract. Noah will be a year older than Amir Johnson but a year younger than Chandler. All 3 are injury risk but active rim-protector type centers. The Celt