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Your Morning Dump… Where we would bet on the ’86 Celtics

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

That’s where our city comes into this. If you’re of my generation, the standard-bearer for beautiful, bold basketball is the 1985-86 Celtics. If you’re of an older generation, the standard is … well, it’s still the ’86 crew of Bird and McHale, Ainge and DJ, Chief and Walton, but you also speak with reverential first-hand knowledge of the Bill Russell era. That New Big Three era wasn’t a bad introduction to Celtics lore for the young ones, either.

What the Warriors did was reminiscent of the best Celtics teams I’ve had the good fortune of witnessing, including ’86. There seems to be a rush around here to diminish Curry and Co.’s accomplishments the last two years, to suggest it’s a softer league than it used to be, that more precise long-range shooting is somehow a bad thing, that nothing we’re seeing now could compete with what happened back in my day, grumble-grumble.

Well, that’s nonsense from those clinging to and perhaps exaggerating the past.

Boston.comWarriors’ beautiful, bold basketball is reminiscent of 1985-86 Celtics

If somehow we could arrange for the 1986 Celtics to play a best-of-seven against today’s Warriors, I’d bet my Larry Bird autographed basketball on Boston to win the series in six.

The stipulation would be that those Celts play the pace-and-space game of the current NBA. The ’86 Cs had the pace part down: they averaged 101.2 possessions per game, which was only 16th in the league that season, but still better than the 99.3 posted by the current Dubs. (Admit it, you’re surprised by that.)

The space factor is another story. Steph Curry made 402 triples by himself this year, while those Celtics attempted only 394 three-pointers total for the entire season. However, I strongly believe if you told Bird, Ainge, Wedman and Sichting to go ahead and let it fly 30-plus times from the arc every night, they would be lethal. Meanwhile, the bigger Cs would dominate the boards (they led the league that season) while playing pretty good defense (also no. 1 in defensive rating). By the way, they were so deep they had Bill freakin’ Walton coming off the bench.

With all that said, the Warriors are incredibly talented and deserve all the praise in the world for their record-breaking achievements. They are better than OKC, and – although the series did not unfold as expected – that talent won out in the end. In their must-win Game 6 on the road, Klay Thompson delivered a jaw-dropping, unprecedented shooting performance – and he isn’t even Golden State’s best player.

As we’re prone to do in our culture, we build up winners until they reach peak popularity, then we tear them down. As a result, the Warriors have their share of critics. But the truth is that anyone who loves basketball cannot objectively deny their greatness.

On Page 2: Speaking of The Truth

NBA Countdown will provide on-site pre-game and halftime coverage for every NBA Finals game. The team of host Sage Steele and analysts Doug Collins and Jalen Rose will work their third consecutive Finals together as a trio. The show will emanate from a set inside the arena. Additionally, Paul Pierce, 10-time NBA All-Star and 2008 NBA Finals MVP, will join the Countdown crew as a guest analyst for select games.

ESPN

There is good news, bad news, and fantastic news about the ABC telecasts of the NBA Finals. The good news is TNT is not involved, so neither is Reggie Miller. The bad news is that Mark Jackson will have a microphone for ABC. The fantastic news is that Paul Pierce will give us a reason to watch the studio show.

As Celtics fans know, The Truth has a big personality that should come across very well in the studio setting. We don’t know if Paul is interested in doing TV work in the future, but if he is, Tommy’s going to retire eventually.

And, finally: Olympic basketball in jeopardy?

Brazil has been badly hit by Zika, the mosquito-borne virus linked to severe birth defects and possible neurological problems in adults.

Gasol said officials involved in the games must come forward with ”more clear information” about the risks athletes could be facing if they decide to compete in Rio.

”I hope the national Olympic committees and the health organizations can be as clear as possible about the risks in Brazil so athletes can decide whether or not to take risks,” he said. ”I don’t think we’ve been told enough about it.”

YahooPau Gasol considering skipping Olympics because of Zika

The Olympics begin August 5, just over two months from now. If Gasol and other key players decide to stay away, that’s going to have a huge impact on the tournament.

One thing about Olympic hoops is that the teams are there for the entire 17 days of the Games. Individual competitors can arrive late or leave early if they desire. If you’re a pole vaulter and want to minimize your potential exposure to Zika, you bail as soon as your event ends. Basketball players don’t have that option.

No one from the Celtics will be playing in Rio. Kelly Olynyk won’t be competing, due to his shoulder surgery, although he might be there to support his Canadian teammates. Bring plenty of DEET, Kelly.

Obligatory “Durant’s Future” links:

Washington PostThe Thunder’s consolation prize for losing to Warriors may be Kevin Durant

The Undefeated The KD question: Did Kevin Durant play his last game for the Thunder?

HuffPostKevin Durant Has Been Connected To A Comical Number Of NBA Teams

YahooThe future of Kevin Durant

CSNNEMacMullan: Unwise To Put All Your Basketballs In Kevin Durant’s Basket

In addition to being world-class on the court, Durant – and his teammates – are nice people:

USA Today Behind the scenes: How OKC’s manager forged a special bond with Thunder stars

The Rest of the Links:

CBS BostonOther Players Isaiah Thomas Should Recruit This Summer

Tacoma News TribuneHoop dreamer embodies Tacoma spirit

HeraldCelts trying hard to size up possible No. 3 pick Dragan Bender

MassLiveEight intriguing NBA Draft prospects not named Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram

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  • dk

    no mention to the article about how KD’s agent purportedly gave the Celtics a list of players to acquire for him to come there???

    • Mike Dynon

      There’s a separate post about that this morning.

      • dk

        cool–thanks!

  • Chief_00

    Parish vs bogut…..what a matchup!

  • RedsLoveChild

    1986 Celtics v. 2016 Warriors?
    Curry & Klay would need to hit 50% of their 3`s just to keep from getting blown out!

    • art

      Agreed. And I hate freakin’ 3’s more than ever. They used to be entertaining. Now it’s a constant barrage. Unfair, Unjustified. And the NBA is doing bad things to itself. They’ll pay eventually.

      • RedsLoveChild

        I`ll gladly take my chances with a dominant center, along with a couple of forwards who crash the boards….any day of the week over a team that launches 25-30 treys, even if they do hit 40% of them.

        The NBA has their “reward scale” backwards…it takes more skill, effort, brains to create a high percentage shot than firing away from 22-24 ft.

        • art

          Right on 100%! You and I have watched this game a long time to know that it is just not right the way today’s game is being played. I pray for some kind of rule change.

        • BamaCeltic

          I disagree ….they should get 4 points for some of the shots they are hitting from that far out. Have you guys ever tried shooting from such a distance ? They make it look like a 5 footer …its amazing how they shoot from that far out and make it look easy…come on guys !

          • art

            Sure. And some of those shot makers are growing up doing nothing but distance shooting because of the 3 instead of working on passing, dribbling, rebounding, boxing out, etc.

          • BamaCeltic

            Everybody who plays basketball has the element of their game that they do better than other aspects of it, but it doesn’t mean they cant do the other aspects of the game. If you can’t dribble or defend you aren’t gonna play for long even if you can shoot the lights out. I think you might have a very elementary mind state of the game if you think that. Have you ever played the game before ? Went to a gym and played pickup ball before ? IF a player could only shoot and do nothing else do you think anyone would pick them for their team to play ?? not happening .I will be 40 years young this year , born 4 days before Coach Stevens so not sure if age has anything to do with basketball knowledge or expertise …because I would consider him a very great basketball mind for his age ..wouldn’t you agree ?

          • art

            Why are there so many 3’s today compared with 10, 20, or 30 years ago? It’s been a steady climb and there are reasons for it. Reasons that you don’t want to acknowledge. And there are so many today, it is hurting the game. It is not the game of basketball the founders of the NBA created in 1946. Taking the shot is fine, but it should be worth 2 points like any field goal is.

          • BamaCeltic

            Please enlighten me on the reasons for the steady climb of 3’s in todays NBA? If a player can hit a great percentage of 3’s almost as if he is taking a layup , then why wouldn’t he take more of them ? You play to win the game don’t you ?? Is 3 not more than 2 ? If you keep hitting 2’s and I keep hitting 3’s ..guess who is gonna win the game ?

          • art

            The point is why should a 3 be a 3 and not a 2 like every other field goal. The unequal plane has resulted in the steady climb. We might as well award alley-oop plays 3 or reverse dunks 3 or any tough plays you can think of 3. How can you decide that any one scoring play is worth more than 2? You can’t and making this one long distance play worth 3 is not right and not fair. And not in the long term interests of the NBA.

          • RedsLoveChild

            Not saying long range bombing isn`t entertaining or easy to perfect…but, winning is all I care about.

            Curry is the greatest shooter I`ve ever seen…however, keep Curry and give me a Kareem Abdul-Jabbar or Shaq in his prime, and we`ll see who wins the ring.

          • BamaCeltic

            Two great dominant players in their prime, and it equaled rings. But todays NBA is different and players will have to adapt to it…just the evolution of the game. Also I think Curry is so loved because he isn’t a physical freak of nature like Kareem or Shaq . Everyone cant be a 7 footer with a sky hook or power moves on the block ..however every kid can work on their shooting and ball handling and dream of becoming a league MVP now that Curry has shown it can be done…..and that’s huge for the game and the NBA. I’m not talking anything away from the way things used to be in the NBA , I loved that era too …but its pretty amazing how Curry’s impact on the game will change it for years to come….and we will all talk about what a legend Curry is/was to our grandkids …just like we do with Larry Legend now…

  • art

    The Golden State Warriors represent all that is wrong with today’s NBA. There are zero reasons to award players 3 points instead of 2 just because they possess a single skill, distance shooting. It’s not fair, OKC was cheated when they outplayed GS various times except for the 3s. And of course the continuation of boring basketball. I believe the 85-86 Celtics would sweep the Warriors, because GS is all about 3’s and that’s about it. And the Green would tear the Warriors apart anywhere near the paint. We need rule changes and we need them fast. The 3 point shooting has to be limited.

    • BamaCeltic

      This is comical ! Larry legend is a legend because he was a great shooter ! But I bet you don’t hate him because he could shoot ! Basketball is about putting the ball through the hoop …cant be mad because others can do it from long range and it gives them more points for doing it. Also …if what the Warriors are doing is boring to you …then I question your love of the game …its a sight to see them play , unselfish , run and gun ! Come on man !

      • art

        Sir you’re missing the point. Great shooters is fine. But 3 points is driving the game to nothing but long distance shooting. See RedsLoveChild comment below about the NBA “reward scale”.

        • BamaCeltic

          The “rewards scale” is exactly where is should be In my opinion. Long distance shooting is difficult to do, hence why everyone cant do it and it counts more points. It doesn’t take much skill to grow to a certain height and dunk a basketball does it? If the NBA gave you 4 points for dunking the ball , don’t you think that each team would be running an offense and trying to dunk it every possession ? I for one am glad its showing that shooting skill is a premium …maybe one day it will come a point where a “Professional” Basketball player doesn’t get fouled intentionally because he cant hit a free throw to save his life …..the HACK-A -WHOEVER days will be over !! Now wouldn’t that be nice ?

  • KGino

    Bird would drive Draymond insane with trash talk and It would be hilarious to watch

  • KGino

    If we’re allowing old school hard fouls, the Warriors wouldn’t stand a chance. I can just see the Warriors being disrespectful in Boston, hitting a barrage of 3s and doing that cocky thing where they run away before the ball goes in. That would be the end of that, Bird would have the Splash Brothers murdered

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