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Your Morning Dump… Where “I ride with these guys until the wheels fall off.”

Picking up the parquet

Credit: Adam Himmelsbach. Also, you’re a little depressed seeing this now, aren’t you?

Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big story line. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

Thomas is hoping the team will have a chance to build on this season, but understands that things could look very different next season.

“One thing I do know, I ride with these guys until the wheels fall off,” said Thomas. “This is a special group. Hopefully, we can all stick together and have something special in the future. I love those guys in the locker room. Hopefully, we can keep this together.”

The Celtics limped to the finish line of the season battered and bruised. Thomas dealt with ankle and wrist issues late in the year while Crowder endured a high ankle sprain in March that might have been the biggest culprit in Boston being unable to snag homecourt advantage in the playoffs.

ESPN Boston

You know, it’s kind of funny–after a season in which no one on the roster was traded, lots of guys ended the year talking about how different the team could look next year. Trader Danny has given these guys PTSD.

And, hey, things could be worse. A lot worse.

Let’s look at some teams that won 45+ games the past few years:

Wizards: 29 wins, 44 wins, 46 wins… and this year? 41-41 and out of the playoffs, fired coach, and they just hired Scott Brooks because they think that’ll help them land Durant.

Clips: 40/56/57/56/53, Griffin & Paul out and they’re looking at possibly exiting the first round in six, just like the Celtics!

Rockets: 54/56/41, without a coach, and basically rudderless

Grizzlies: 56/50/55/42, and what do they have to look forward to? Being fondly remembered for a time for a very particular style of basketball that never quite took them far enough–this decade’s answer to the 80s Bucks and Trail Blazers, or the seven-seconds-or-less Suns?

Bulls: 50/45/48/50/42, and having to make some tough decisions about Derek Rose, and just who they are as a team.

Nets: 49/44/38/21

Would you trade the Celtics’ roster, picks & prospects for any of those? What about the Bucks? Remember when they were going to be awesome?

And look at the Nets! They traded three picks to Boston, plus the right to swap a fourth and in their best year only won a single game more than Boston did with players that Ainge found at a flea market.

Page 2: Where Evan Turner can read the writing on the wall

“I love playing for the Celtics,” Turner said. “I love the city and everything. It’s definitely been a blessing. Hopefully it’s not my last game in a Celtics uniform. The coolest thing is to wear the uniform. I don’t take that for granted. The tradition and opportunity and the energy around it is great.”

Despite all that, Turner understands the situation. He helped plenty during his two years in Boston, but all the other perimeter players in the rotation are under contract for next season, and team president of basketball operations Danny Ainge will try to target big stars.

MassLive

Evan Turner looks like he’s going to be joining the Brandon Bass club–a likeable player who just doesn’t fit with where the Celtics are going. As far as I understand it, if the Celtics are going to land two max contract players, they will need to renounce their rights to re-sign Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko and Evan Turner. But even if the Celtics only sign one big time free agent, the crazy money flying around this year might mean an offer to Turner that the Celtics just don’t feel comfortable matching.

At any rate, for Turner, as with a lot of former players, time will go by and eventually he’ll retire and then the craziest thing will happen. If Turner wants, he can become a Celtic all over again, and for as long as he wants. That’s just the odd way this team and its fans operate.

Page 3: Where it’s an opportunity league

Ainge also hinted that some of what can help the Celtics may already be here.

“It’s an opportunity league, and there’s a lot of guys that get an opportunity and they shine,” he said. “And we have some guys on our team that really haven’t had an opportunity yet, so we have to evaluate all 15 of our guys and the draft and free agency and the entire league.

“So we’ll be preparing for the draft and watching the playoffs, and we’ll continue to evaluate the players in the NBA on film and so forth. It’s a very busy time for us.”

Boston Herald

Steve Bulpett buttonholed Ainge after the game and got some rather unfiltered comments on the team.

Although, Ainge used the phrase above to describe guys on the end of the bench, it’s certainly an apt description of the misfits that earned playing time this year as well.

Page 4: Where here are the lottery odds

1 – 15.6%

2 – 15.7%

3 – 15.6%

4 – 22.6%

5 – 26.5%

6 – 4%

Boston.com

So basically, Boston’s got a just about 50% shot at a top three pick and a 96% shot at a top 5 pick.

Posting this in case you’re bummed out about the Celtics being unable to beat Atlanta with one hand metaphorically tied behind their back.

Finally: Life lessons from an ex-Jackrabbit

“This is what living feels like. Most people don’t try, and live in the middle and don’t put their hearts out there. They protect themselves. When you do this, and put your heart out there in front of all these people — sometimes it’s unbelievable and very exhilarating and sometimes it’s incredibly painful. But that’s what living feels like. I hope they live the rest of their lives that way.”

Scott Nagy was the coach at my alma mater up until about a month ago. That quote was from a one point loss in the conference title game last year. It seems an appropriate message for today. And a reminder that happiness in sports is often a zero sum game.

(You’ll have to skip ahead to 6:40 in the video below for the full remarks because apparently WordPress doesn’t let you embed a start time in a YouTube URL)

The rest of the links

Glutton for punishment stuff

MassLive: Isaiah Thomas, Boston Celtics can’t score enough again, fall 104-92 to Atlanta Hawks in decisive Game 6

Boston.com: Celtics’ season ends with 104-92 loss to Hawks

NESN: Celtics’ Chemistry Couldn’t Overcome Lack Of Firepower Against Hawks

Boston Herald: Borges: Celtics not good enough to beat Hawks

WEEI: Teary Thomas: ‘This should hurt everybody’

Other stuff

MassLive: Atlanta Hawks Kyle Korver on Avery Bradley’s absence: Boston Celtics guard ‘a great shooter’

CSNNE: Scalabrine: Reasons for Celtics to be optimistic | C you next season?: Future is unclear for several Celtics | With season over, time for Celtics to hit recruiting trail

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  • CelticsNextGeneration

    Well as sad as I am today, this will be another one of those Celtic teams that didn’t make it all the way that I’ll look back on fondly. A tremendously fun group, who never die and never quit. Here’s to the future; hopefully we can bring back most of the core group with some real stars… IT, Smart, Crowder, Bradley, and Turner.

  • art

    The expectations were that this team would not make it past the first or second round. Expectations were met. Danny now has a lot of work to do. And a lot of tools and assets to do it with. There is a desperate need for talented size and shooters. Step 1: the lottery on May 17.

  • Jester00

    even though he looks like and sounds like Muppet. I think the Celtics need to resign Even Turner! Just because he does so many different thinks and now I will wait for the hate to come my way. who do you think we should resign??????

    • Curt Hays

      Hey now! He got hit by a car at age 5, and he made it all the way to the NBA…go easy on the guy!

      Even so, you ain’t wrong.

  • CFH

    I will miss the hell out of Evan Turner if he has to go. At least he’ll probably get a softer landing spot than poor Bass did.

    Forget that Turner is a Swiss Army knife who helps in all sorts of ways on the court… I need periodic updates on his 27 year streak of not getting arrested and his presidential campaign!

  • grey_skies7

    The Celtics are in a tough spot – good group of guys, but not in contention and no obvious holes 1-5. We obviously need shooting – but at the expense of who’s minutes? Our only shot of reaching the next level is to bring in a superstar without sacrificing our core. Two “all stars” wouldn’t get us there. This team, minus Sully, Jerebko, and Turner, and plus, say, Horford and Beal? That’s not getting us anywhere.

    We’ll swing for the fences in trying to sign Durant or Drummond, which everyone else will also be doing, but we should also be looking at stuff like this: Amir, Smart, Young + all of our first rounders this year for Jimmy Butler: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=z2h5gjg Would you guys do that?

    • jamoalki

      Sullinger can go. At the best we could keep him as an 8th or 9th guy, or maybe just to play in blowouts and against teams with other big slow bodies. Jerebko is replaceable as well (though I’d like to see him stay). Turner is the tricky one.

    • jrleftfoot

      Hell no to all that for Butler. Smart and the Brooklyn pick are too much to give up in my opinion.

  • jamoalki

    I hope it’s an interesting off season. So many positives for the team, both current and future. If we can keep a top three pick, get a “superstar” and maybe package young potential talent for another all-star caliber player that would be amazing. Jerebko, Zeller and Olynyk would be hard to see leave, but they might make the start of a nice package for an upper tier return. Sullinger? Meh. Even our rookies and Young should be seen as assets only (I think). Do we really have a solid track record of bringing young players along? (This is my biggest worry about Smart)
    I hope we can find a way to keep Turner. He’s so versatile. Maddening, but versatile.

  • Sean

    Be real we could’ve used Brandon Bass this year alot more than like 5-8 players.

    • Richard Jensen

      Pretty sure they couldn’t have kept Bass & signed Amir Johnson.

      Also, Sully was solid during the regular season. Millsap would make probably 25 of the starting PFs in the league look like chumps. Pretty sure he’s going to make Love look pretty bad in the next round.

      • Sean

        I’d rather had Bass, he wouldn’t have started the season iffy and his mid rang never missed. Plus he could guard 3-5.

        Sully is always solid. Because he’s so fat.

        • Richard Jensen

          3 games vs. Atlanta last year, Bass had these net ratings: -56, -28, -44 rating.
          Sully was +4, -17, +25

          • Sean

            He was also +25 lbs overweight