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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

“On the plane ride up here, we were looking at the standings, and the team’s right here,” Wright said. “It’s still goals that are obtainable, playoffs are reachable, and we just want to come in here and do the best that we can and do what we do best — play hard — and hopefully push a little bit in those standings.”

They have embraced the challenge of being snatched from a team with title hopes to one simply trying to make the playoffs.

“I feel like we have a chance to make a push in the Eastern Conference to make the playoffs,” Crowder said. “And that’s our goal . . . We’re going to influence those guys to keep fighting each and every day and getting better as a unit and see what happens.

“We were in the airport taking a lot of pictures, meeting a lot of fans. So the town was excited. I know Boston lost one heck of a player, but we feel like we’ve come over here to prove a lot and we know we can play some basketball, so we’re excited.”

Stevens will try to ensure the new pieces slide into place smoothly.

“I think all three of them have roles on this team,” Stevens said. “I think we’ll determine the extent of those as I get my arms wrapped around everything more.”

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Learning on the fly shouldn’t be an issue, Crowder said, considering the Mavericks’ system.

“Over in Dallas, we had an NFL playbook,” Crowder joked. “So we’ll be ready.”

They had a small practice session planned once they arrived in Miami on Saturday.

“It’s going to be a challenge,” Nelson said. “It’s not going to be easy. These three guys right here, we wouldn’t want it any other way, anyway.”

Boston Globe – New Celtics trio ready for the challenge

I’m not sure if Brad Stevens has an “NFL playbook” for his players here, but my guess would be no.  It must be tough for the new guys.  Tough to adjust on the fly to a new team, new city, new conference.  It must be especially tough to go from being on a legit contender out west where every night seems like a playoff game to coming to Boston where they are scraping at the bottom of the eastern playoff cellar.  Sure, they will have plenty of home games where the fans will show up, be loud, and root them on.  But man, that is not fun going to a rebuilding team.

That’s what the C’s are, again, and how all these new guys fit into the big picture is a bit fuzzy.  When you’re more excited about the picks and Trade Exception, it speaks a lot about the players you got in return.  Brendan Wright could be a nice role player (he is a prime example of how one can go a bit crazy with advanced stats).  Jae Crowder… I mean, sure.  And Jameer Nelson… well he was good about 5 years ago.

These guys are all likely not going to be here when Ainge finally puts a relevant team on the floor, whenever that is.  Wright might be here, but for now, like most players on the team, they’re all holdovers to be temporarily evaluated on until we see the next contending version of the Celtics.  For now, let’s see what each of them can do.

On Page 2, Doc knows the conflict that Rondo struggled with

Rivers talked to Rondo two weeks ago, and sensed the conflict.

“I know for a fact that Rondo was torn,” said Rivers. “When we talked he was completely torn. He wanted to be a Celtic for life. But he didn’t see any more titles coming if he stayed. He’s very happy now to go to a great situation. But at the time we talked, he didn’t know what he wanted.

“It was just a tough, tough call.”

As Rivers, Kevin Garnett, Paul Pierce and Kendrick Perkins have discovered, you can indeed come back. Rondo returns to the Garden with Dallas on Jan. 2, and if the day is anything like what the others have experienced, Rondo will be reminded why part of him wanted to stay.

He witnessed the emotional tributes for Rivers, Pierce, Garnett and Perkins. But it goes back further than the tributes. The emotional ties were formed by moments like Game 6 of the 2012 Eastern Conference finals.

LeBron James had just put the game out of reach with a 45-point performance, tied the series at 3-3, and sent it back to Miami for a deadly conclusion. But fans stood and applauded as the Celtics filed off the floor following the 98-79 blowout loss.

According to Rivers, this is the kind of moment that ties Rondo to Boston.

“That day is my most important memory other than the title,” said Rivers. “I tell people about that all the time. I know there is not another city in this league where that would happen. They just get it there.

“Everyone who has left knows that you can make a case for why it was so special basketball-wise, but it’s the intangibles like that day that get you. I guarantee you that’s what Rondo is thinking about now.”

Boston Herald – Rivers’ edge like Rondo’s

Doc understands.  For someone that supposedly hated life because Rondo existed within it, Doc does a good job outlining the conflict Rondo struggled with.  He said many of the same things Perk said.  He also said many of the same things Celtics fans have said.  These are also the same things that Paul Pierce said… back in 2007.  Remember, Pierce was also 28 and tired of rebuilding and was close to being traded.  Now, Rondo is not Pierce, but if Ainge was able to acquire Kevin Love and/or other established star players, Rondo would still be here.  This time around it just wasn’t going to happen.  In the end, it’s likely what’s best for everyone given the situations. 2008 is long gone… hell, at this point even that final last gasp in 2012 seems like ages ago.

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Merry Mavericks: Newcomers ready to help | Prices up on Celtics vs. Mavs

Boston Globe – Celtics, Mavericks get what they want out of Rajon Rondo deal (Sunday Notes)

Boston Herald – Stevens back in his comfort zone | Ainge lauds old ally (Sunday Notes)

CSNNE – Ainge should think hard about trading Jeff Green | All indications are Rondo will sign with Mavs | Wright looks to pick up where he left off in Dallas | Mavs insisted on getting Powell in Rondo trade, too

MassLive – After Rajon Rondo trade, what’s next?

SB Nation – The Celtics have a war chest of first-roud draft picks

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  • Astarot

    I can already see the future is bright with those three (sarcasm).

  • forever_green

    We Suck.

    What’s next..is DA gonna suit up!

    • wil

      Well, to be fair we are not really worse after Rondo trade. Lets face it, Rondo wasnt exactly making us better. I love Rondo but with out his 100% he wasnt making us a better team.

      • forever_green

        We are worse now and in future.

        Now because he made other players better and was a leader with tons of playoff experience, how effective do you think Zeller will be now? DA has done a mediocre job of putting a team together since our ship in 08. That’s why we are still mediocre as a team. Just this past off season was disaster. Failing at tanking, not making moves, then over paying Avery Brickley. When Rondo is your point guard having a shooting guard that can’t shoot is Retarded.

        You can’t blame Rondo for us stinking. Rondo was not a scorer that is clear. But he did his job as a point guard distributing the ball a being a floor general. Rondo doesn’t choose the players around him. Only one person to blame for that, the man gambling on a bunch of picks over the next 4 years.

        • wil

          7-9fg and scored 14 points last game. Zeller seems pretty effective to me.

          Look, as much as i love Rondo, he wasnt making this team any better. The dude is shooting 40% and scoring 8.5 pts a game. You couldve argued he isnt a scorer when he was scoring 14ppg. But 8.5ppg for our starting pg who holds the ball the most isnt exactly productive. And paying him max just to keep him.

          And we have 6 1st round picks now and the upcoming season. Wouldnt exactly call that worse in the future.

          Be mad at Danny Ainge all you want. He is still one of the best in his job.

          • forever_green

            How long do you need before you see DA is not one of the best at his job? Another 6 years?

            Picks are nice, proven players are better.

          • wil

            How long does it take you to compare him to other GMs? How many GMs are there exactly out performing him?

            We have no contracts weighing us down anymore. Wallace is turning to an expiring contract next season. No matter how much i dislike ABs contract, with the new cap coming next season his contract will look like a mid level exception. We have all the picks we can get.

            We got some nice young players in smart. zeller, sully and olynyk. We got tradeable talent with Turner and Wright.

            We have a good looking offense despite the lack of talent. We are also in 8th seed. We have an up and coming coach. We got picks from the nets that are currently on their way down. Unprotected picks btw which Ainge arranged.

            We are not in a bad position. Im just glad we are not Detroit or philly or nyk or nets or minny or utah or lakers.

            The Celtics are gonna climb back up.

          • forever_green

            I don’t care how you spin it. Its a longer rebuild without Rondo. That’s all I’m saying.

          • wil

            I wouldve agreed with you at the start of the season before i saw how Rondo played.

          • forever_green

            Ok

  • Frank Aziza

    i wish he would trade Bradley. We have no guards that can actually shoot. How can we space the floor when only Kelly can shoot. Get some shooters Danny!!!!

  • wil

    Teams are inquiring about Dragic. i hope celtics are one of em. i wouldnt mind giving a few picks for dragic or bledsoe.

    • swissflix

      As long as we keep & develop Smart…Dragic is not exactly young, is he. 27 or so.

      • wil

        Ofcourse! Smart and Dragic can play together. We are currently at 8th seed. Bringing in more talent to get to the playoffs would be good experience for a young team.

        Dragic is a great player. He knows how to play off the ball and consistently attacks the rim. Smart can learn alot of things from a scoring guard like him.

        We didnt really trade Rondo because of his age. It was because of his production and fit to the system. If Rondo was playing like 2-3 years ago, i doubt we wouldve traded him.

        • forever_green

          Dragic is ok, maybe one pick but not worth a couple of picks. Bledsoe I don’t want but that’s just me.

          You say Rondo was traded because of production and system. I love Brad as our coach but we don’t have much of a system. Production?.What Scoring? When has Rondo ever been a Scorer? That’s not his game. Rondo was traded because DA failed to put a good team around him.

          • wil

            Rondo was scoring 13.7ppg about 2-3 seasons ago. He is scoring 8ppg in a more inefficient way. Thats a huge drop. When people say he isnt a scorer its because he isnt scoring 20ppg. Not because he cant score.

            I dont know what youre watching but if you dont see system Brad, look a lil closer. Its a continuous use of picks, handoffs and continuous ball movement. Our offense looks way better than most teams. Problem is our defense isnt on par and our offense still inconsistent.

            Bledsoe is just 25, watch some of his highlights and its encouraging to get him. We havent gotten a guard that attacks like him and dragic in a long time.

          • forever_green

            Dragic is fine, I’m just not a fan of Bledsoe, that’s all.

          • wil

            Not that big on Bledsoe either but having two physical and athletic guards with Marcus and Bledsoe just looks enticing.

            Well that much we can agree on. I dont really want nelson on the floor. Phil doesnt really do most stuff well but he keeps the energy up on the floor.

        • swissflix

          I’d rather keep Smart. Play him and Young a lot for the next two years. Get the picks in. Keep sucking until 2017 and get real high picks this year and 2016.

  • swissflix

    Got this feeling that maybe Wright and Sully or Wright and Olynyk turn out to be a nice front court after all. Olynyk should benefit a LOT from teaming up with Wright on D as well as on offense.

    • Brad P

      Wright and Olynyk is a watered-down Mavs frontcourt lol

    • wil

      I think we should keep Zeller and Sully on the starting unit. Kelly on the three point line lobbing passes to wright will be fun to watch.

      I just hope Brad doesnt gives Bass minutes just because he has been here longer lol

  • swissflix

    According to Celticshub, the pick belongs to the Celtics this year if it falls between 14-7. Even with Rondo i don’t see the Mavs become a top 4 team in the competitive west. Which means chances are good that we get a pick somewhere 10-14, depending on the Mavs’ record. That would be pretty sweet!

    • BIG_HITTA1

      chances are ZERO the Mavs pick will be 10 to 14. As of today the Mavs pick would be 23rd. The Mavs even if they falter slightly will pick somewhere from 18 to 20 worst case.

      • swissflix

        Wait. Outside of the top three picks it’s all the way down depending on the standings, right? So even if the Mavs win like 55 games, they might still wind up being the 10th-12th best team in the league, right (because of all the good teams in the west)? Am i seeing something wrong here?