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Your Morning Dump..Where Boston & Dallas Are Talking Rondo Trade

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The Boston Celtics, after years of flirting with potential Rajon Rondo deals, are in substantive discussions on a trade that would send Rondo to the Dallas Mavericks, according to league sources.

Sources told ESPN.com that the Celtics and Mavericks have been discussing a swap that would furnish Boston with multiple draft picks — including at least one future first-rounder — as well as blossoming Mavericks center Brandan Wright and other players needed to make the salary-cap math work.

Sources say the Celtics also have been talking to teams such as the Sacramento Kings, New York Knicks, Los Angeles Lakers and Houston Rockets about potential Rondo deals, but that the most advanced discussions have been with Dallas.

Celtics, Mavs Talk Rajon Rondo Swap-Marc Stein

Dallas Mavericks Media Day 2014-2015

After the Celtics defeated the Orlando Magic at TD Garden last night, reports surfaced on Twitter that Rondo was seen leaving the Garden with Danny Ainge, Mike Zarren & Steve Pagliuca. That in itself was a bit odd and got the hackles on the back of my neck standing up. Are they prepping him for the inevitable? Then, both Marc Stein and Sherrod Blakely tweeted that Boston and Dallas were in trade talks for Rondo that included Brandan Wright. Other veterans and draft picks are supposedly also included in the proposal on the Mavericks’ end.

Dallas of course would be taking a risk with Rondo, as he has expressed his intent on testing the free agent waters come this summer. But if Mark Cuban is looking to strike while the iron is hot, and get himself another ring, now is the time. In Dirk, Parsons, Monta Ellis & Tyson Chandler, the Mavs have a formidable squad that could hang with any team in the West. But toss a skilled passer & play maker like Rondo into the equation, and you’ve got a legit championship contender. Not to mention a guy who at 28 years old has started 92 career playoff games. After last night’s game, Rondo stood pat on his stance that he still loves it here in Boston and that he wants to stay a Celtic. Called the rumors “a way of life” and said “everything happens for a reason.”

I’m really torn on Rajon at this point. I really, really like what he brings to the table when he’s engaged and focused. We saw a perfect example of this last night. With the Magic looking to stretch their lead going into halftime, Rondo simply took over the game-he passed, scored & led the C’s on a run that put Boston up by one as the 1st half came to an end. That’s what he’s capable of doing on any given night. Then there’s the other part of me that is honestly just sick & tired of the rumors, speculation and at times, under appreciation involving Boston’s captain. If Danny is going to move him, which at this point seems as real as ever, then damn it, just do it so all parties can move on. As much as I’ll miss watching one of the NBA’s most electric & exciting players doing it in Celtics green every night, at least the black cloud that is the Rondo rumor mill will finally go away. I know these guys are not supposed to let this stuff bother them, but you have to imagine that Rondo & his family/camp have to be sick & tired of it to some extent also.

So as a Celtics fan, obviously my next question is who are we going to get in return..? Is Ainge really going to trade our best player for the expiring contract of a “blossoming” (please) 27 year old, oft injured center ? And who else could Cuban possibly toss in? As our friend Tom Westerholm mentioned, other than Parsons or Dirk, the Mavs simply have no one else we really need. Sure, Monta Ellis would be nice, but I just don’t see that happening.

Dallas is the organization that Boston has had the most serious talks with as of this posting.

Now we all know how Trader Dan operates. So of course this “leak” involving Dallas could simply be a ploy/decoy to help Ainge gain leverage and/or interest from other teams. But one thing is for sure-if Danny does deal Rondo now, it’s clear that he is trying to put Boston in the best position possible to acquire one of the top picks in this summer’s NBA draft. That’s the only thing that makes sense if he does not receive a player or players of equal value in any deal for Rondo. It also unfortunately means another (at least) full season of rebuilding mode aka sucking. As far as relationships go, Rajon is not notably close with any players currently on the Mavs. However he and Chandler Parsons are linked through Chinese sneaker company Anta. Both Rondo & Parsons endorse the Anta brand.

Related links:

CSNNE: Mavericks Showing Interest In Rondo|Globe: Is Rondo Getting Traded To The Mavericks?|Yahoo: Mavs Emerge As Suitor To Trade For Rajon Rondo|Dallas Morning News: Report: Mavericks Contenders In Acquiring Rajon Rondo|ESPN Dallas: The Risks & Rewards Of Rajon Rondo|Herald: Market Down But Mavs Make Offer For Rajon Rondo

Page 2:  Another wild night in the NBA

It seems like every time I turn on the NBA lately, there’s a game going into OT or someone drilling an incredible buzzer-beater. Well last night was more of the same, as there were two overtime games, including a 3OT classic that was easily the best game of this young season.

The red hot Memphis Grizzlies were in San Antonio to play the Spurs, and what an incredible game it was. The Grizzlies outlasted the Spurs 117-116 in triple overtime. It was Memphis’ third OT in it’s last four games. Marc Gasol’s ridiculous three-pointer at the end of regulation sent the game into it’s first OT session. Gasol then made a layup with 0:09 left in the first OT to tie the game at  102, and Manu Ginobli’s miss at the horn meant another overtime period. The Spurs found themselves down 111-109 with 0:02 left in OT2. Tim Duncan’s shot bounced on the rim three times before dropping at the buzzer which sent the game into triple OT! The Grizzlies were finally able to secure the victory after Zach Randolph nailed a jumper and Manu Ginobli bricked a shot badly as time expired in OT3. Check out all the highlights below:

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston: Rondo On Trade Rumors “It’s A Way Of Life”|Rondo Spearheads Balanced Output|Herald:Celtics Notebook|Slumpbreakers Lift Celtics|CSNNE: Celtics “Turned Up Heat” To Close Out Magic|Stars Studs & Duds|Globe: Celtics Have No Problem With Magic

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  • forever_green

    As long as trader Dan is running things the Rumors will never stop, if its not Rondo it will be another.

    Trading Rondo is giving up on a quick rebuild and admitting defeat..here we come another 20 year drought.

    • Curt Hays

      He has said he’s keeping Rondo. I’ll trust him for one more time.

  • Curt Hays

    I am a Mavs fan. I want them to win if Boston doesn’t. I do not want Rondo to get traded here. I want him in green, damnit. If he gets traded…Idk how I’ll feel. I hope maybe I can show up and support him in a way that helps him. There are thousands of Rondo jerseys in this town. Maybe they’ll treat him right here.

    If we can put up with Tony Romo and Dez Bryant, I guess we can make Rondo feel welcome.

    • adam

      You’ve must have seen Brandan Wright play a lot. Is he any good?

      • Curt Hays

        He is like Zeller or Steimsma or Wilcox in that he needs a distributor. Brandan is young and has great chemistry with his team. The Mavs are the new lob city, and he is a big part of it. But he will not change the Celtics on his own.

        Consider that JJ Barea is actually worth his salary in Dallas, but he was useless in Minnesota. Chemistry is strong in Dallas. Boston is building that right now…with Rondo.

        • adam

          So we need Rondo to make him effective? I say keep the team, Offer Rondo a good contract and go after DeAndre Jordan.

          • Curt Hays

            Thank YOU. That’s been my sentiment the last two seasons!

          • KGino

            Curt is on the $, Wright is limited offense good defense type big man. Would be the type of player that Rondo could bring the best out of…

            I’ll be truly saddened if we trade Rondo before we get him an athletic big man. All these days of watching Rondo make people like Shaq, Wilcox, KG, Perk, Zeller, Krstic Steimsma Semih Erden, etc. look so much younger and/or better than they actually are, and imagining what he could do with a player like tyson chandler or deandre jordan or anthony davis just salivating waiting for the chance… all to watch him do it for another team would suck!!

          • bill_nair

            Atleast we got to see KG’s last prime year with Rondo. That was truly a joy.

          • Curt Hays

            You just named them all. Spot on. Imagine if we traded straight up for Chris Paul. I wonder who would benefit most. I think Blake Griffin. Now Blake is the guy I’d like to have the most. I’d trade Sully, Bass, and Green for him if we could find a defensive Center to go with him.

    • forever_green

      It will feel like this..

  • Sean McLaughlin

    In the immortal words of MC Hammer: Please Danny, don’t hurt us!

  • swissflix

    If Rondo gets traded, they should include Zeller for sure. They both play very well together and Tyler without nr.9 would not be nearly as effective on offense as he is now.

    • Curt Hays

      and Brendan Wright will be just as ineffective without the right point guard.

      • swissflix

        Lol i really hope Raymond Fatton is NOT included in any proposed deals…but seriously, i would demand Parsons and then ship him somewhere else for a really high draft pick.

        • Curt Hays

          First, the wouldn’t give up Parsons…Dirk took the largest pay cut in history to sign Parsons. I’m sure you know all that.

          Second, trading Parsons would be dumber than trading Rondo. He gets more rebounds than Rondo, more than 5 assists, and more than 20 points quite frequently. And he can play on both ends of the court. He and Kelly are like big and little versions of each other. Except Chandler is more proven.

          • swissflix

            Of course. But trading Rondo for Wright is also quite stupid, isn’t it? Hence the trade will not go down.

          • Curt Hays

            Yes. The idea I think is that we might get Devin Harris and picks to go with it. I don’t like picks, but then I remember Rondo, Jeff Green, Marcus Smart, Jared Sullinger, and Kelly Olynyk. Then I remind myself of the others. So I just don’t think I want picks.

  • NE_Celt

    They were talking about trade rumors for Uncle Jeff last night too. He has def upped his value this year with more consistent play.

    I dont want Rondo to be traded…but I would love to stop having to hear all these trade rumors…it had been kind of quiet lately, then these reports surface…now another few weeks of back and forth on these rumors…yaaay.

  • Ron Flanders

    I would rather keep Rajon for the rest of the season and let him walk than trade him for Brendan Wright and a draft pick.

    • Sean McLaughlin

      Maybe I’m biased, being a massive Rondo fan, but I agree. Definitely not enough. Not sure why Danny thinks the draft is the only way to rebuild nowadays. Obviously Brenden Wright is just filler in this proposed trade… Sure, we’ve never really been a team to attract free agents, but once we trade for established talent they always seem to want to stay. We have ONE person that finally will attract talented free agents due to the fact that he makes everyone around him look and actually be better, and we wanna throw him away for another CHANCE at a DECENT rookie? It takes a good mix of youth AND experience to win a championship. This won’t happen with nothing but rookies. Maybe he wants to flip picks into trades for talent, who knows, but how long is that talent gonna stay if they’re surrounded by a bunch of up and comers???

      • bill_nair

        I guess for some fans watching the ping pong balls not go our way is more enticing. After last year, im giving up hope on our draft luck. That’s why I wanted to compete and watch what the Nets picks return us.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          No doubt. Plus which, has anyone noticed that if the playoffs started today we’d be a #8 seed??? Why screw with our roster too much when they’re just starting to gel. All these new guys look up to Rondo and look to him for direction. Look how Pressey’s upped his game (hell, he’s even gaining the confidence to take AND MAKE shots as of the last two games) since Rondo started working with him… These things should not be ignored.

    • bill_nair

      I cant believe ANYONE would think this is a good deal. No matter how much you irrationally hate Rondo.

      • Herman Bubbert

        One of my favorite canards of Celtics boards – if you think a max contract is too much for a guy who doesn’t come to play every night and struggles to score the basketball, you’re an “irrational Rondo hater.”

        I am admittedly underwhelmed by the Dallas offer, but you people who worship Rondo are going to have to come to grips with reality – your stilted worship-fueled view of him isn’t shared anywhere in the league. Rondo is wildly overrated by Celtics fans, on this lblog and others.

        No one is going to pay a max deal for someone who can’t shoot fouls, only plays defense when he feels like it and struggles to score the basketball. Ainge cannot be faulted for refusing to make the idiotic mistake of overpaying Rondo because the guy has a fan club undaunted by the mounting evidence of holes in his performance.

        • adam

          I am going to disagree with the struggle to score. When Rondo “wants to” (yes those words again) he becomes a triple double machine. Yes most of those points are off lay ups, but still he can score. If you said “has a shaky jump shot” I wouldn’t be opposed to that

        • Sean McLaughlin

          This coming from the same guy I saw a few days ago say there is ZERO progress going on with the Celts this year. lol There’s a difference between blindly worshiping a player and appreciating the facets of said player’s game that contribute to a team’s possibility of winning. If he didn’t play like he does, I’d definitely not be the fan. I don’t like guys, so it’s not physical attraction. (not that there’s anything wrong with that lol) Furthermore, While Rondo isn’t Lebron or KD he’s DEFINITELY the best chance we have at pulling additional stars. (see how I said additional? that means yes, I do think he’s a star. If he isn’t one, neither are many of our leagues best players) And while other GM’s across the league are obviously just trying to get the best deal possible, just like Danny, numerous GM’s have already stated that they’ll pay him a max contract.

          • bill_nair

            Sean, you have great analysis and id hate to see you waste a good post on someone who clearly has only one set goal when he comes to this site, troll.

        • bill_nair

          Your lack of reading comprehension skills never ceases to amaze me. No one on this entire board mentioned a max but of course whatever supports you argument huh? Also, every comment you have ever posted has been about Rondo, yet WE worship him?! I cant believe anyone is this stupid or delusional. EVERY post you have posted on this site has been about Rondo, and WE worship him?! Ha. Im all for Danny trading Rondo and Herman to wherever.

          • Redunkulous

            He’s a troll. I remember a similar arse on this site posting this same exact anti-Rondo propaganda during the 2012 lockout season

          • Curt Hays

            You can’t feed the trolls.

            @disqus_9WCLMoAH8g:disqus knows what I’m talkin bout

          • bill_nair

            I know I need to do better. But when you’ve seen countless C’s fan literally justify trading Rondo for Wright, well I feel like punching a wall. I had a fan arguing with me that Wright has upside and his PER is reason to be excited.

          • Curt Hays

            His PER is a product of his teammates and the chemistry they have. Our bench has that chemistry too. But just like in chemistry, you can’t mix them all together just because they’re beneficial on their own.

            Getting defensive makes them feel like they’re right. We don’t care about the trolls! Don’t let them bother you! :-)

          • bill_nair

            You’ve probably seen more Wright in a year than I have my entire life. So however you feel about this trade, attach my sentiments to it.

          • Curt Hays

            Thanks for the faith. I think he is better than Tyler Zeller, but he will NOT have the Jordan-esque PER when the GMs start playing musical chairs.

        • KGino

          Herman, if you don’t think SOMEONE is going to give Rondo a max contract, you don’t know the NBA very well…

          Here’s the thing… Rondo is valued by intelligent Celtics fans as a “lure” for big name free agents, as well as a playoff BEAST. Playoff Rondo probably does deserve a max contract, whereas I would NEVER give regular season Rondo a max contract.

          We’re not really overvaluing him, most of us are just smart enough to know Rondo doesn’t equate to a late first round pick and some random big man. Or even a mid 1st round pick and lower tier PG (Holiday). If those are the offers, keep him. I’d rather let him walk and take the cap space or try to re-sign him to a reasonable contract and go after someone who will take the team to the next level

          • BIG_HITTA1

            KGino, you are right. No doubt some team will give RR a max deal but not Ainge. Danny knows it, RR knows it. Therefore rather than letting RR walk, he will trade RR for pennies on the dollar (vs getting nothing in return). And since RR knows that someone will give him a max deal, he WILL NOT “re-sign for a reasonable contract”. RR will be 30 yrs old next season and he does not want to remain on a team that is re-building for the next 2 to 3 yrs.

      • Curt Hays

        How did I know before scrolling down that HB would respond to you? I haven’t read his comment, but I’m going to guess that it is a toolbag of a comment.

        • bill_nair

          Id trade Herman for Brandon Jennings at this point. Id give up our first if they took him.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            Lmao

        • Sean McLaughlin

          You must be clairvoyant! Lol

    • lindasofiya

      My Uncle Thomas got Mercedes-Benz CLS-Class Sedan from only workin on a pc…

      • adam

        cool story bro, down voted.

      • zippittyay

        Gee, I was all ready to make big bucks sitting at home playing with my computer but you didn’t give me a link! My life is ruined.

  • bill_nair

    Capela, Pelicans 1st, Rockets 2016-2018 1st (whichever they can trade the earliest) and filler. That’s the deal I wouldnt be mad at.

  • eddysamson

    Branden f’ing Wright? Seriously? See people this right here is why I said Jrue is the best offer we will get. Because if its not him its going to be utter crap deals like this. F that. Bad trade, no thanks.

    • bill_nair

      Im hoping Danny would take the Pelicans proposal before the Mavs. If he trades Rondo for Branden Wright I cant defend the man no more.

      • eddysamson

        Nope, me neither. This deal is god-awful.

      • eddysamson

        ………………………..sooooooooooooooooooooooooooo lame. So F Ainge right?

        • bill_nair

          Ya not a good deal at all. Whether thats Rondos market value or not, the deal still is doodoo. To me, Ainge just rolled over and gave up on Rondo rather than trying hard to get anything of worth. Sad.

  • bill_nair

    Any non Rondo supporters able to answer this?:

    The go to argument seems to be we have a better W/L record without Rondo than with. So why ruin our shot at a top pick by winning more games by trading Rondo? If the goal is to position ourselves for a better pick, going by this logic, aren’t were going to be better?

  • zippittyay

    Before you laugh too hard at Brandan Wright, he is 4th in the entire league in blocks per min played and has a PER of over 26 according to ESPN.com

    • wil

      still a gamble since he only plays like 18 minutes a game his whope career. He is a nice bench player. He has a high PER since you can just throw it anywhere and he can catch it. But who will throw him lobs when Rondo is gone?

      and he mainly plays power forward i think.

  • Redunkulous

    I’m tired of Boston media and many Celtics fan’s hating on Rondo. The local critics do not appreciate him. The rest of the league has him “overrated” and would love to have him. Rondo deserves better than this. Send him to Dallas, so he can lob oops to Tyson Chandler and set up Dirk for mid-range jumpers all day. Mr. Tripple Double is gonna go to work in the Western Conference Playoffs against all their great point guards. If this trade goes down, check his stats this postseason. It’s gonna be like 2009, 2010, and 2012 all over again but in a Mavericks jersey

    • BIG_HITTA1

      as C’s fan, I like your lust for RR. But here are some facts:
      – RR is certainly not a superstar and he is struggling to retain any star status. His already poor shooting is getting worse and he refuses to take the ball to the cup (due to his fear of exposing his recently hideous FT%). NO starting PG playing 30 mins or more per game goes to the FT line less than RR
      – RR cannot carry a team, he doesn’t have the skills and/or game to do so without another 2 stars (no, NOT a Jeff Green type) on his team. Look at what he has done for the last 1 1/2 yrs without his Big 3. Plus, a 6’2″ PG shouldn’t be expected to carry a team. The C’s have only beaten two good teams this yr (the Bulls & the Wiz); they’ve played a lot of cupcakes and their win total is still low. RR can’t get it done by himself or with his below ave teammates. RR would excel on the Mavs because of the talent on that roster.
      – RR rebounds 5 times better than he shoots. You cannot say this about ANY other star PG in the history of the NBA.
      – the C’s as currently constituted are going NO WHERE this yr. And as putrid as the C’s are, there are still 6 – 8 teams that are worse (how is that even possible!!). This roster would never make the playoffs in the next 3 yrs.
      – RR does not attract free agent talent (just ask K Love). That is a fallacy.
      – RR is the best trade chip Danny has to attempt to turn the roster around and get multiple stars plus a few likely to succeed draft picks. RR probably wants out; Danny will never re-sign RR at the $ RR wants (or the $ others will give him). The smart GM trades RR to get anything vs nothing.

      • Redunkulous

        I wasn’t making a case for him to get a max deal and become the face of the Mavericks. I don’t think he will shoot 40% from deep or 90% from the stripe. I just said he would get a triple doubles, but Tyson Chandler wants some of that glass too.

        • BIG_HITTA1

          I knew that. I was offering up some info on why Boston fans are critical of (not hating on) Rondo and why, due to the overall status of the team and the roster, that it is probably better to trade RR vs keep him. I appreciate RR but I do believe he is overrated for my reasons above.

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  • Sean McLaughlin

    So no Laker’s crappy offer article yet??? lol Had to migrate back to Twitter!

  • wil

    Id take nash, this years unprotected pick, and randle. Then id trade bass, randle and a clippers pick for Dragic.