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Your Morning Dump… Where the Celtics and Lakers had a “discussion”

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Every morning, we compile the links of the day and dump them here… highlighting the big storyline. Because there’s nothing quite as satisfying as a good morning dump.

The intriguing breakfast between Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant and Boston Celtics point guard Rajon Rondo on Thursday morning in Boston was indeed just breakfast.

The two stars had planned for weeks on meeting up for a meal when the Lakers were in Boston, sources told ESPN.com.

While there are no active talks between the two franchises involving a trade for Rondo, sources said the teams did have a brief discussion a few months ago.

It’s not clear which team initiated the call.

Rondo will be a free agent this summer, and sources stressed that the Celtics would prefer to re-sign him.

Their willingness to engage in talks regarding Rondo is merely informational at this point, sources said.

ESPN.com – Kobe-Rondo breakfast simply social

The most intrigue from the Celtics season thus far has involved omelettes, bacon, toast and orange juice.  Oh and a couple of former NBA champions.  Just two guys eating breakfast, nothing to see here.  Maybe not.  According to Ramona Shelburne of ESPN, the Celtics and Lakers have recently had a “discussion” a few months ago.   If a breakfast garnered so much wild speculation get ready for some madness from  “The discussion.”  For more on “The breakfast,” see below:

 

And so the man who passes too much and the man who doesn’t pass enough got together Thursday morning for some orange juice and toast. Celtics fans immediately suspected Bryant of tampering, while Lakers fans raced to ESPN’s trade machine to figure out a way to get the point guard they often say is totally overrated but would love to see in purple and gold to help rescue the 2014-15 season.

At least this year’s Celtics-Lakers matchup is getting some buzz now. Before Thursday morning, the Boston-L.A. game was just a gathering of two teams trying to avoid another year in the lottery; a reminder of the rebuilding process that each franchise is navigating with the pressure of a combined 33 title banners staring down at them.

The Celtics are trying to steady themselves after a frustration-filled first month of the season, but their future remains murky, especially with Rondo set to become an unrestricted free agent in the summer. The 36-year-old Bryant says he’s willing to be patient with Los Angeles’ rebuilding process, but he clearly would prefer to hit an accelerator pedal before his arms go numb from all the shots he’s taking.

OK, so maybe he was recruiting Rondo.

ESPN Boston – Breakfast of Champions?

If you ever find yourself in Boston around the Beacon Hill area looking for a good breakfast, The Paramount is a fantastic choice.  It’s a bit nostalgic of being in elementary school where you wait in line and order the food as you go.  You pay at the register and bring you plates to any available table.  Here’s the thing about the Paramount though.  While it’s great for common people like you and I, it’s not exactly the best part if you’re a famous athlete or celebrity.  For Rajon Rondo and Kobe Bryant, they don’t seem to care about that privacy… at least over breakfast.

As Chris Forsberg outlined in his story above, let’s say Kobe is obviously recruiting Rondo (because well there’s no way it works the other way around, right?)  Makes sense that the Lakers are in dire need of star players to support Rondo.  Rondo prefers passing over scoring (so much so that he’s been averaging 2PPG for what seems like a month) and nobody loves scoring more than Kobe.

There are lots of hurdles in the way here though. For one thing, the Lakers don’t really have much that would appeal to the Celtics other than vague draft picks and Steve Nash’s expiring corpse.  So it would seem more likely that Kobe is making his sales pitch for free agency.  Still, the Celtics can offer Rondo more than the Lakers (or anyone) even without giving him the max.

It’s an interesting story for sure, especially since neither team is a serious threat in the league.  And the thought of Rondo playing for the Lakers is like a kick to the balls, especially if he gets recruited to leave right in our front yard.  There’s a long way to go until then unless a third team gets involved or something crazy happens.  Until then let the mad speculation continue.  With Rondo and Kobe, the drama always does, from coast to coast… even if the two organizations currently doesn’t provide any of it on the court.  It’s still Celtics vs Lakers in some way, and that will always matter.

Page 2: Smart fires bricks while Young is on fire

Rookies Marcus Smart, James Young and Dwight Powell have been assigned to the Maine Red Claws for a Thursday night game against Fort Wayne, the Boston Celtics announced Thursday afternoon.

Young and Powell have both gone through the D-League shuttle before, but this will be Smart’s first stint with the Red Claws.

With the Celtics off Thursday, it’s safe to assume the team wants him to get some extra reps. He still hasn’t gone through a full practice with scrimmaging since suffering a left ankle injury on Nov. 7. The guard returned to the lineup Wednesday night after a 10-game absence, but only played for a stretch of 4:38 in the second quarter.

MassLive – Marcus Smart among three rookies assigned to Maine Red Claws

Continuing his rehab from a badly sprained ankle, Marcus Smart joined James Young and Dwight Powell on the Maine Red Claws.  They played a game last night against Ft. Wayne and Smart struggled with his shot, going 1-12 from the field (0-8 3FGA) for just 6 points. He did chip in with 5 rebounds and 7 assists.  James Young however was on fire, dropping 31 points on 9-15 FG (7-10 on threes) along with 9 rebounds and 3 assists.  Powell also scored 21 points while going 9-14 from the field.  It’s good to see these guys get some run on the off day. Both Smart and Young had an eye-opening box score, for different reasons.

The rest of the links:

ESPN Boston – Rajon Rondo: “I’ve not been myself” | Sullinger Diary: On losing, facing the media and more

Boston Globe – Rajon Rondo of Celtics has been struggling | Lakers’ losing is tough on Byron Scott, Kobe Bryant

Boston Herald – Extra work for Marcus Smart | Lakers plight rivals Celtics

CSNNE – Welcome to breakfast with Kobe & Rondo, now relax | The Celtics five-week report | Blakeley’s first-quarter NBA awards

WEEI – Greg Monroe willing to ‘weigh options” with Celtics

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  • bill_nair

    “And so the man who passes too much and the man who doesn’t pass enough got together Thursday morning for some orange juice and toast.”

    This quote made my morning.

    • Dave

      Kobe sure as hell didn’t pass that bacon either.

      • CoolRapQuote

        Kobe not passing is one of the most bogus and tired arguments in the NBA. Who lobbed shaq the ball in the most famous alley oop in NBA history? Do you by any chance recall who passed Ron Artest the ball when he hit the dagger 3 in game seven? You could argue that considering the circumstances, that was one of the most important passes in NBA history.

        • Dave

          Chill it’s just a joke. Most of us here respect his ability and know he does pass but we’re not going to defend or praise a Laker.

          • CoolRapQuote

            You’re right. My bad. Lol

  • CoolRapQuote

    I’ll never forget 2012 play off Rondo. But his lack of production since then has been very bye Felicia esque.

    • Curt Hays
    • Curt Hays

      His lack of production? Well he tore his ACL. Then he broke his hand.

      Since returning he has been flirting with a LOT of triple doubles. He has been answering all those claims of “he needs hall of famers” by making people like Tyler Zeller look good. He misses a LOT of layups and free throws, but saying that he hasn’t been producing is really not true.

      • Sean McLaughlin

        Well, the problem is that he had three semi-bad games in a row, Curt. What’s he done for us lately? ;)

      • CoolRapQuote

        It’s pretty clear that he needs players more than players need him. Making Zeller look good is cute, but it’s not launching us into contention. I don’t think that in a rebuilding process of trying to find new talent, and build a new philosophy and identity, Rondo is a guy that should stick around. He’s a good player, I admit that. I just don’t think keeping him around is healthy for the growth of this franchise. He can be a good piece on several other teams.

        • Curt Hays

          First of all, everyone needs good players around.

          The question, as you point out, is whether Rondo is one of the players other guys need. Keeping him around as the go-to guy is not good. Hack-a-Rondo will be a thing if we don’t get a go-to guy soon.

          Just HOW is keeping him around not healthy? He hustles, he passes, he rebounds, he leads. It’s like you’re saying that John Stockton wasn’t healthy for Utah. (John Stockton needed Karl, but Karl needed John. And don’t start talking about how John is different from Rondo :-). I’m talking about him as a teammate, not as a shooter.)

          • CoolRapQuote

            I agree with all of your points. I’m just not in love with Rondo being the future of this team and bringing guys in during rebuilding to compliment him. I could be thinking about this in the wrong way, but I like the “wipe the slate clean” philosophy. To me, Rondo seems like that last thread of our past that we need to rip off and start fresh. There are several ways of rebuilding, I get it. I’m just a fan of this one. Plus, think of all of the guys who would be free of rondos leadership and jump to the opportunity of stepping up.

          • Curt Hays

            Danny got rid of every player he started with…except for one. That ended well. Maybe you’re only opposed to paying Rondo max money?

            I just don’t see what’s wrong with trading Green, Bass, Bradley, and Turner, then starting with whatever superstar(s) you get in addition to Olynyk (cheap), Smart (cheap), Thorton (cheap enough), Rondo, and Sully.

          • CoolRapQuote

            There’s nothing wrong with it. It might work. I’m just not a fan of Rondo being the focal point of a rebuild for the celtics. if we can get Rondo for very cheap, keep him. If not, bye Rondo.

          • Curt Hays

            To each his own. You’re a Cetlics fan, so that’s what is important.

            I guess I don’t see what’s wrong with him.

            “I personally think his over all NBA makeup screams celtic. The passion, the hustle, the backing of his team mates. Sacrificing his body.”

          • Fitzy

            The thing about Rondo is that he’s a pass first point guard. He’s going to make it significantly easier for free agents to come here because they won’t be wondering who’s going to get the shots. (see LA and Kobe situation) not saying he will attract a big name but he keeps that door open, without Rondo that door is closed. So just by having Rondo on our roster provides us with an option for an accelerated rebuild through trade/free agency. Rondo’s shooting woes also shelter Marcus Smart’s shooting woes.

          • bill_nair

            I cant wait for Rondo to leave so we can see how Smarts god awful shooting is justified. If people want to get rid of Rondo because “he cant shoot” I don’t get how you can be any more excited about having Smart being the focal point of the offense.

          • Fitzy

            You have to believe he can improve though. It doesn’t always happen but look at Jason Kidd for an example.

          • Mike C

            Exactly, well said! The day Rondo leaves, you can tack on an extra 3 to 4 years onto our rebuilding phase. He cuts that time in half (Easily) because he can attract talent to come to Boston.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          I’ll keep it nice and short because I’m leaving work early today. :) These young guys don’t know how to run a real offense without Rondo. They’re learning though. Why? Because of Rondo. You can’t take 20 games and expect us to be the ’86 Celtics… It’s a work in progress and if we just keep shuffling key/core players around (like Philly seems fond of doing lol) you’re not going to progress. (again like Philly) Patience is a virtue in this situation. Give it another year and we’ll be back in serious playoff contention.

          • disqus_mjP1eNT2Nf

            I hope you’re right Sean. I listened to two GangGreen shows last night and it was like having an ice bucket poured on my hopes for a bright Celtics future. Most of the people who post on RedsArmy are fairly upbeat about the Celtics future, but the GangGreen guys hadn’t a good word to say about any player ,except maybe Zeller.
            Danny Ainge isn’t very popular with them either, they had a go at Tommy Heinsohn too.They were relentlessly negative. I still enjoyed their take on things its all about opinions at the end of the day, but I hope they are wrong.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            I wasn’t gonna bring it up, cuz I THINK those guys are affiliated with this site (which I love if y’all can’t tell Lol), but yeah, i couldnt listen to their negativity after that last episode. So down on so many of our pieces like they’re all just crap. Jeff Green is becoming much more consistent from game to GAME than he ever has been, Rondo doesn’t HAVE to be a volume scorer to be a leader, there’s definite progress shown from the way we played last year when we had these 4th quarter woes for a full 48 minutes, yet they gave them no credit for these advances among others I’m probably leaving out. I understand being realistic about our contention status, but they basically were saying Ainge needs to gut the whole roster and start fresh. It’s all about progress in a rebuild. Boston fans expect more from their teams than most, but at the same time all that negativity does no one any good, imo.

          • Sean McLaughlin

            And anyone that has a problem with Mr Heinsohn is gonna have to go through me first! Lmao. Nothing wrong with Scal, per say, but am I the only one that really misses listening to Tommy during road games? No one can replace him behind the mic on color commentary. NO ONE! (in my best Tommy impression)

          • CoolRapQuote

            I used to think Tommy’s home roam was annoying. But I was missing the joke. It’s like watching the game with your angry, drunk uncle. It’s funny. I crack up just about every time he rants about obvious fouls not being fouls. It’s great. What he’s really saying when he says “that’s not a foul!” Is “that wasn’t a foul in 1974!”

      • disqus_mjP1eNT2Nf

        All true , but we can’t afford anymore guys who can’t shoot now that Marcus is toiling with his shot.

  • Sean McLaughlin

    Now if we lose tonight, the Rondo haters will be accusing him of collusion with Kobe. lmao Seriously though, I’m not a fan of these cross team friendships. I want that hate and fire in this competitive sport back that inevitably evolves into exciting rivalries. As much of a whiner as he is, that’s one thing I appreciate about Joakim Noah. Fierce competition comes from having a chip on your shoulder. Don’t lose that chip, Rondo!

    • Dave

      Rondo’s one of the most competitive guys in the league so that shouldn’t be an issue. I don’t necessarily see Rondo and Kobe being cross team friends, more of mutual respect. I don’t recall Rondo chilling with Kobe after the 2010 Finals like KD did with LeBron in 2012.

      Kobe happens to be in town and went to eat with Rondo, I don’t see a problem there, just the media likes to blow things like these out of proportions given how he always loved the way Rondo plays cause he plays the same.

      • Sean McLaughlin

        Agreed… Wasn’t faulting Rondo just more responding to what the media is making it out to be. But yeah, that Lebron/Durant thing was EXACTLY what I was thinking about. And just ask Curt (above), if I was a woman I’d be trying to marry Rondo and have his baby. lol

        • Dave

          To add to that: Fck off Kobe, you can’t have him >:(

    • Curt Hays

      I’m with you, but consider that these guys probably don’t get to maintain a lot of friends and other people with whom they share a bond. Kobe is a hall of fame player and Rondo respects him. having breakfast with someone on your level is likely a luxury that these guys don’t get to take advantage of often.

      That and they probably thought it’d be hilarious to see what this breakfast did to reporters.

    • CoolRapQuote

      Agreed on Noah! I used to hate him because of the Garnett beef. But I really like him now. He’s the ultimate team mate and plays with passion.

      • Curt Hays

        Except that the expression of his passion is very whiney and feminine. I’d never take him serious if I was 7 feet tall and in the NBA. I’d TRY to make him cry. He’s the type I never want to be a Celtic. I only want to defeat him.

        • CoolRapQuote

          I personally think his over all NBA makeup screams celtic. The passion, the hustle, the backing of his team mates. Sacrificing his body.

          • Curt Hays

            Totally agree with you. I still don’t want to go all “if you can’t beat em, join em”.

        • Sean McLaughlin

          Oh, don’t get me wrong, I don’t want us to pick him up by any means. Just saying that fire that he puts inside you to WANT to beat him instead of discount him is something I respect. He acts like a little bitch, yeah, but passion is dying in the NBA, so passion’s passion at this point.

  • Sean McLaughlin
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  • swissflix

    Rondo for two first rounders? Hell yeah, i would do that! Considering how bad the flakers are, the pick in 2015 is a certain top 5 pick and will stay with them. We could have two picks with the first 6-8.